Four questions showed up recently in a comment about a post on debt.
1. What advice would you give for teaching young children and teenagers these principles?
First we need to identify the principles mentioned in the post. They are:
- Debt is worse than the plague.
- Never pay credit card interest.
- Borrow only for home, health, and education.
- Pay tithes and offerings.
- Be charitable.
- Never co-sign for a loan.
- A bargain is not a bargain if you don’t need it.
Obviously some of these principles would be lost on young children. The easiest principles to teach them would be tithes and offerings. When offerings such as for the Fast are made this is being charitable to the poor or those in temporary need. Number seven on our list can be taught by allowing safe but unwise purchases so that children can learn by their own experience what is and isn’t a bargain.
In our home we kept a small box that contained change in a small can and dollars in an envelope. It also contained tithing slips and envelopes. When the children received their allowance my wife and I would help them figure their tithing and write out the slip. We had change on hand (in the small can) so that they could submit the correct amount. By the time they were teenagers they took care of their tithes and offerings by themselves.
When the children reached twelve or thirteen I would open a credit union account for them complete with checks and a Visa debit card. Around eighteen I would make sure they got a credit card. That way they could start building a credit rating without me having to co-sign for a car. The credit card had a $200 limit which was raised over time.
Was it successful? The children know how to handle credit cards without incurring debt. They automatically pay tithes and offerings. They are very good savers.
2. What works better than conventional strategies?
One thing I did when the children were young was to open a savings account at the bank. This was no ordinary account. It was a Black Hole Account. This meant that money deposited into the account could never be withdrawn, except for a mission. I set up the accounts so that two signatures were needed for withdrawals, mine and the child’s. At first I mandated that the children deposit half their earnings in the bank but I later left it up to them. Sarah was exempt but nevertheless saved a substantial sum with which she was able to tour Europe and later to buy a car.
Was it successful? Our first three missionaries saved their entire mission cost (currently $9,600) plus were able to buy everything they needed for their mission. Our youngest boy is preparing to go on his mission.
3. What have you done with your children to teach them?
Our children probably noticed that we paid our tithes and offerings, that we saved, and that we never paid credit card interest. So a good example is the best teacher. If you have learned sound financial principles then your life teaches your children. They probably heard us talk about a new couch or other item and also heard us decide that we had to save for it. They learned that they may have to wait for their birthday or Christmas to get what they wanted, or to save over an extended period.
We tried all sorts of work schemes. Chores were expected but then some were paid. We never seemed to hit on a formula that worked. For a time we had an allowance that was part free and part earned. When the children got outside jobs I let them keep all their earnings. I wanted the connection between working and earnings to be very strong. Besides, they saved most of their money and a good percentage went into the Black Hole Account.
Was it successful? I would say mixed. We never did get the allowance thing right. However, the children are great at earning a living and can hold down a job.
4. What would you have changed (concerning teaching important financial principles) if you could raise your children again?
When it came to cars my wife and I paid for the running of them and retained ownership. Three of the children now own their own cars. By my calculations it would be very difficult to save for a mission and purchase a car as well as pick up college expenses for the year that some of the boys had before their missions. If they had bought cars then I would have had to pay for their missions. By absorbing the car expense it left the mission and college costs to the children. That would make mission and college more meaningful for them because they contributed substantially. However, I sometimes wonder if I should have had the children get into car ownership earlier.
One thing I would change is having the children contribute to the mission of their older sibling. Once Sarah asked me if she should help with paying for Steven’s mission. I said, “No, your mother and I will take care of it. You save your money.” Wrong answer but there you go.
Was it successful? Yes. As children reach college and mission age this is no time to scale back on your financial commitments to them.
Conclusion
There is a lot more I could write about. What worked for me as a parent may not work for you. I might mention that what we were teaching at home was being reinforced at Church. Many of the principles mentioned here I learned over the pulpit and then taught my children. I very seldom look back and question how I raised my five children. I am just grateful I was given the opportunity to be their father.
How did you learn about finances? What have you taught your children?
Rika Susan's Juicing For Kids says
Rickety, this is such a useful article! Thanks! Every parent should read this – especially with the economy as it is. It is so true that the example parents set is absolutely crucial. If kids grow up in a family situation where getting into debt is a way of life, they are likely to get trapped as well. It is possible to teach kids to work responsibly with money – all it takes is a bit of planning and common sense as you show.
rickety says
Thank you for your kind words. Parenting is actually a lot of fun and the best times I had were when my children were teenagers. I read through some of your blog posts on juicing. This is very useful information, thank you.
cosmos-blog says
useful for me ,thank you.
Guest says
There’s no doubt that education is the key ingredient to success. As Americans emerge from the afterglow of the recent presidential election, while president-elect Barack Obama prepares to take the reins of the country, education is an issue that’s lingering on the minds of many. According to an article at The Apple, No Child Left Behind will be Obama’s first priority when it comes to education. He is not looking to snip the program, but he does intend to reform it, particularly when it comes to standardize testing. He does not support preparing students all year to “fill out bubbles.” Referencing schools, both Obama and vice president-elect Joe Biden support charter schools, as long as they perform up to standard. Teachers at charter schools and others are pleased with Obama’s incentives like Teacher Service Scholarships and various pay rewards – this will certainly be a great help. Furthermore, part of the president-elect’s main concern is to boost Early Head Start programs and provide tax credit for college education. The course to repair faith in the American educational system through these ideas and more will definitely lead to the kind of credit repair the country needs.
rickety says
Thank you for your very useful comment. It will be interesting the direction education takes with the new administration. I’m not looking for any help from the Federal government, my family is doing fine without it. But others may welcome all the help they can get. I know of neighbor children who attend college for one semester and then drop out and work as many hours as they can the following semester to pay for school. That is not a very efficient way to get your degree.
Anon says
As a parent of to young children myself I found your article full of ideas as to how to start getting my children financially savvy from a young age. We’re already doing the savings account as well as getting them to wait until christmas and birthdays. Really useful.
rickety says
Thank you for your comment. Any effort you put into training your children about finances really pays off later. I occasionally had random bouts of generosity where I would help a child. For example, when Sarah really wanted a new french horn for a band tour abroad, I purchased it for her. This helps children learn that sometimes people need a little help and that when they are grown they should be willing to give unconditional aid to others.
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